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Hidden Arsenal 4: Trishula's Triumph

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Post by Sobia6464 Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:36 pm

Discuss the soon-to-be-released set.

Trishula may be instantly limited when it comes out, and it's price will go to about 80 maybe, but it is aridiculous card that no doubt everyone will be after. I doubt anyone knows of any other card in this set.
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Post by LucienWolf Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:30 am

All I here is Trishula, so it's the only one I know, just because I haven't look up the pack.
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Post by Sobia6464 Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:51 am

http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/products/bp-ha04.html
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Post by Cyberzilla Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:23 am

Don't forget the Genex! Genex Ally Birdman and Triforce are very good (especially in machine decks) Now locomotion r-genex and other good synchros can finally be used easily.
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Post by Sobia6464 Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:26 am

I bet you are on the look out for some of those eh?
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Post by LucienWolf Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:21 am

Has anyone seen The Fabled Unicore? It has simply a beast effect if you can keep your opponents hand = to your hand.
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Post by Cyberzilla Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:26 am

Yeah, fabled control decks could become very good.
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Post by crazyninja3000 Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:29 am

Gawd, Birdman will be bawss.
So will Triforce.


A new age of Machina: one that actually requires money to build.
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Post by Sobia6464 Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:15 am

I still don't think they require TOO much money. Though you are right, price will go up.
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Post by Cyberzilla Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:21 am

yeah, triforce will be worth 10 dollars max and birdman 5 max probably. So still pretty cheap.

Can you believe that solemn warnings and PoD's price went up?! Even with warning being semi'd
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Post by LucienWolf Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:24 am

Well nobody would want to get 3 warning, so price goes up by 20-50% to make up for profit as if someone wanted to buy the 3rd one.
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Post by Cyberzilla Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:29 am

That makes no sense, you could just sell the third one separately.
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Post by Sobia6464 Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:43 am

It's still a fairly cheap and competitive deck.
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Post by LucienWolf Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:43 am

Yes, but think about it this way........

Let's assume 1 deck too. I mean there are people who will probably order 10 so they can put it in 5 different decks.

Say a population of 200,000 people out of 280,000,000 wants to buy 3.
Now since it's limited maybe only 20,000 wants to buy 3 now.
Now the original population will still want 2

Let's assume price is 50$
Let's assume the price increase is to 65$ (30% increase in price)

200,000 buying 3 at 50$ each is 150 per customer so the total is... 30,000,000$
20,000 buying 3 at 50$ each is 150 per customer so the total is 3,000,000$ which is a profit of 27 Million dollars lost.

200,000 buying 2 at 65$ each is 130$ per customer the total is 26,000,000$ which is now a profit of 4 Million dollars lost compared to 27 Million.

You should definitely see an increase. Now granted, if a card gets limited, it's price will go down, because of odds and probability of drawing such card is now only 2.5%, people may just go for a different, but effective card, and people wouldn't want to buy it as much.
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Post by Sobia6464 Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:46 am

But then you must think about it like this. (This goes for everything, not just card values)

Cards are only worth what people will pay to get them.
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Post by LucienWolf Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:56 am

Well, put, if noone buys after the price increase then because of overstocking it should go down.
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Post by Sobia6464 Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:58 am

That's usually how the market works. Well, more specifically, in my opinion it works like this:

A Mass majority of people who play this game base their values off eBay BIN price.

eBay BIN price is based off of finished auctions on that product.

In other words, the BIN price is how much people will pay for it.

When that goes down, everything else will follow.
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Post by Cyberzilla Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:52 pm

Exactly, Sobia. Of course it's logical to raise the price in order to compensate for a decrease in sales, but since most people with enough money probably already have enough solemn warning, increasing the price is likely to decrease sales even more.
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Post by Kelptic183 Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:35 am

I'm looking forward to all The Fabled. Especially Ceburrel and Unicore. Soo goood.
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